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MAGRIETHA DU PLESSIS's avatar

I am so sorry, but i cannot continue reading this article. Just in the first few paragraphs there are so many lies it is not true. The west is as evil as can come and democracy is a joke. Go as the people living under the tyranny of the European Union where there is no freedom of speech, dissent can land you with a heavy fine or even gaol time! I have family in Germany so I have first hand knowledge. I a not saying Russia and China are models of freedom, bur I am saying go to Russia and see how the people live there and how much freedom they actually have.

The West only wants to milk every other country and get them under their control. Why pay for oil and other natural resources if you can steal them? Why not just let the poor people of the countries that do not bow down in front of you starve in order to get regime chance and instal a new regime that will do your bidding?

Please!! Open your eyes and go a little deeper, scratch the surface and you will be shocked at what you will find.

Nicholas Woode-Smith's avatar

It'd be great if we could password protect the comment section to only be accessible if you finished the article. The article clearly shows how Russia is worse than the West. There's a great line in the Fallout TV series that sums this up a lot.

The one side (Russia and China) are actively persecuting their people, harvesting organs from ethnicities and religions they don't like, killing anyone who disagrees with them and actively practicising genuine colonialism and imperialism.

The West is just vaguely problematic.

MAGRIETHA DU PLESSIS's avatar

Fine I am not fighting about this, I know what I know and I accept that most do not agree with me, bad things happen everywhere, just think Epstein! So i rest my case as the movies always say.

Nicholas Woode-Smith's avatar

From your previous comments, I think you have been greatly misinformed. It is proven beyond reasonable doubt that Russia, China, Iran and pro-Islamist groups operate massive disinformation campaigns and bot-farms, pushing propaganda as fact en masse.

I think you'd do well to utilise fundamental logic and test it against various sources to see what stands up best to scrutiny.

For example, if the West is so bad, why is the in flow of migration always towards the West and not towards Russia, China and Iran? And no, it's not because of border control. Russia effectively has an uncontrollable border. If people wanted to flock there, there's nothing Moscow could do to stop them. Their border control policy is being a terrible place to live.

MAGRIETHA DU PLESSIS's avatar

I am sorry, you seemed to have missed my point. The West is also not free anymore. Europe has no freedom of speech, I know because my son lives there. The European Union makes arbitrary decisions without consulting the citizens. The flocking to the "West" is true, but you do not know the half of what many of them are doing there. What you also do not seem to know is the many Ukrainians from the east of Ukraine fled to Russia because they feel Russian. Once again I know this personally not hearsay. This is why I do not want to get into an argument, I have first hand knowledge, and I am not so stupid as to be ignorant about propaganda and bots, unfortunately from both sides. So I read very wide, spend hours a day sifting through the propaganda, so please do not accuse me of being ignorant of what goes on in the internet world, after all I read this substack as well! I just know that the people of Europe are suffering and any dissenting voice is taken as "Nazi" and prosecuted, my son knows that from living in Europe. So please I know we will never agree, that is fine, just not accuse me of ignorance.

Nicholas Woode-Smith's avatar

I'm sorry, but uncorroborated anecdotal evidence is irrelevant in an argument.

Yes, the EU and the US are not perfect and they need to be held accountable and improved. But guess what? There are mechanisms to improve it peacefully.

No such mechanisms exist in the New Axis.

MAGRIETHA DU PLESSIS's avatar

Ok "uncorroborated anecdotal evidence" as in my son living it?